About Guest

Ben Chodor is CEO of CallRevu, an automotive technology company delivering AI-driven call analytics and communication solutions to thousands of dealerships across North America. Under his leadership, the company processes nearly 300 million calls annually, turning conversations into actionable insights. A seasoned entrepreneur with over 25 years of experience, Ben has built and scaled multiple SaaS businesses across media, healthcare, and communications, with a strong focus on innovation, data, and the customer experience.

In this episode…

Every SaaS company is racing to adopt AI, automate workflows, and scale faster than ever. But as technology accelerates, one question keeps surfacing: What actually drives growth when everything becomes automated?

For Ben Chodor, a seasoned SaaS operator and longtime builder of data-driven businesses, the answer is clear: Technology alone isn’t enough. He believes that while AI can enhance speed and insight, the real differentiator lies in combining data with human connection and service. Drawing from his experience processing hundreds of millions of customer interactions, Ben emphasizes that insights only matter if they lead to better conversations, decisions, and relationships. Ultimately, companies that balance automation with a human touch are the ones that sustain growth.

In this episode of the Revenue Engine Podcast, Alex Gluz is joined by Ben Chodor, CEO of CallRevu, to discuss the evolving role of AI, data, and human connection in SaaS growth. Ben explains how AI is reshaping service and support, why data-driven marketing must go beyond vanity metrics, and how alignment across teams drives revenue. He also talks about adapting leadership as companies scale.

A glimpse of what you will learn

• [01:13] Ben Chodor talks about his background and what they do at CallRevu
• [10:54] The exact moment founders may limit company growth
• [13:44] Why Ben says marketing is the backbone of B2B SaaS growth
• [16:39] How sales, marketing, and agencies can align to drive results
• [19:03] The new rules for customer support, competition, and data security
• [25:11] Actionable tips for smarter, more human-centered marketing
• [29:01] Ben explains why breaking out CAC by channel transforms budgets
• [32:49] How investors now assess AI risk and seek vertical focus

Resources Mentioned in this episode

• Alex Gluz on LinkedIn
• T.A. Monroe Digital Agency
• Ben Chodor on LinkedIn
• CallRevu
• ChatGPT
• Claude
• Gemini
• Federal Communications Commission (FCC)
• Federal Trade Commission (FTC)

Quotable Moments

• "Everyone forgets that the last S in SaaS is service."
• "I am a CEO who thinks marketing is one of the most important areas in an organization."
• "My belief is every dollar I give to my CMO should bring back two or three dollars worth of revenue."
• "Just because you have the best product in the world doesn't mean anybody knows."
• "Kindness isn't a weakness like it is. It's a superpower. It's a strength."

Action Steps

1. Align marketing, sales, and partners around shared goals: Without alignment across teams, even strong campaigns fail to convert into meaningful revenue.
2. Focus on data-driven decision making: Analyzing performance metrics deeply helps identify what truly drives revenue instead of relying on vanity metrics.
3. Prioritize customer support and service quality: Retaining customers through strong support is more efficient and impactful than constantly acquiring new ones.
4. Adapt leadership and strategy continuously as you scale: Different growth stages require different skills, and adapting ensures sustained business expansion.
5. Balance AI automation with human interaction: Leveraging technology while maintaining a personal connection leads to stronger relationships and better long-term outcomes.

Sponsor for this episode

This episode is brought to you by T.A.Monroe Digital. At T.A.Monroe, we build world class revenue engines for B2B SaaS companies. What that means is we do everything behind the scenes to generate you tons of qualified leads, opportunities and customers.

1. We build highly effective marketing systems and scale their profitably through our demand generation strategies.
2. We think scientifically on how to scale your demand and revenue.
3. We bring decades of experience.

Email us at alex@tamonroe.com or visit www.tamonroe.com today to schedule a strategy session or learn more about our mission.

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